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innocent declaration of Socrates; that the truth of the story is a great



advantage:  (2) the manner in which traditional names and indications of



geography are intermingled ('Why; here be truths!'):  (3) the extreme



minuteness with which the numbers are given; as in the Old Epic poetry: 



(4) the ingenious reason assigned for the Greek names occurring in the



Egyptian tale:  (5) the remark that the armed statue of Athena indicated



the common warrior life of men and women:  (6) the particularity with which



the third deluge before that of Deucalion is affirmed to have been the



great destruction:  (7) the happy guess that great geological changes have



been effected by water:  (8) the indulgence of the prejudice against



sailing beyond the Columns; and the popular belief of the shallowness of



the ocean in that part:  (9) the confession that the depth of the ditch in



the Island of Atlantis was not to be believed; and 'yet he could only



repeat what he had heard'; compared with the statement made in an earlier



passage that Poseidon; being a God; found no difficulty in contriving the



water…supply of the centre island:  (10) the mention of the old rivalry of



Poseidon and Athene; and the creation of the first inhabitants out of the



soil。  Plato here; as elsewhere; ingeniously gives the impression that he



is telling the truth which mythology had corrupted。







The world; like a child; has readily; and for the most part unhesitatingly;



accepted the tale of the Island of Atlantis。  In modern times we hardly



seek for traces of the submerged continent; but even Mr。 Grote is inclined



to believe in the Egyptian poem of Solon of which there is no evidence in



antiquity; while others; like Martin; discuss the Egyptian origin of the



legend; or like M。 de Humboldt; whom he quotes; are disposed to find in it



a vestige of a widely…spread tradition。  Others; adopting a different vein



of reflection; regard the Island of Atlantis as the anticipation of a still



greater islandthe Continent of America。  'The tale;' says M。 Martin;



'rests upon the authority of the Egyptian priests; and the Egyptian priests



took a pleasure in deceiving the Greeks。'  He never appears to suspect that



there is a greater deceiver or magician than the Egyptian priests; that is



to say; Plato himself; from the dominion of whose genius the critic and



natural philosopher of modern times are not wholly emancipated。  Although



worthless in respect of any result which can be attained by them;



discussions like those of M。 Martin (Timee) have an interest of their own;



and may be compared to the similar discussions regarding the Lost Tribes (2



Esdras); as showing how the chance word of some poet or philosopher has



given birth to endless religious or historical enquiries。  (See



Introduction to the Timaeus。)







In contrasting the small Greek city numbering about twenty thousand



inhabitants with the barbaric greatness of the island of Atlantis; Plato



probably intended to show that a state; such as the ideal Athens; was



invincible; though matched against any number of opponents (cp。 Rep。)。 



Even in a great empire there might be a degree of virtue and justice; such



as the Greeks believed to have existed under the sway of the first Persian



kings。  But all such empires were liable to degenerate; and soon incurred



the anger of the gods。  Their Oriental wealth; and splendour of gold and



silver; and variety of colours; seemed also to be at variance with the



simplicity of Greek notions。  In the island of Atlantis; Plato is



describing a sort of Babylonian or Egyptian city; to which he opposes the



frugal life of the true Hellenic citizen。  It is remarkable that in his



brief sketch of them; he idealizes the husbandmen 'who are lovers of honour



and true husbandmen;' as well as the warriors who are his sole concern in



the Republic; and that though he speaks of the common pursuits of men and



women; he says nothing of the community of wives and children。







It is singular that Plato should have prefixed the most detested of



Athenian names to this dialogue; and even more singular that he should have



put into the mouth of Socrates a panegyric on him (Tim。)。  Yet we know that



his character was accounted infamous by Xenophon; and that the mere



acquaintance with him was made a subject of accusation against Socrates。 



We can only infer that in this; and perhaps in some other cases; Plato's



characters have no reference to the actual facts。  The desire to do honour



to his own family; and the connection with Solon; may have suggested the



introduction of his name。  Why the Critias was never completed; whether



from accident; or from advancing age; or from a sense of the artistic



difficulty of the design; cannot be determined。















CRITIAS。











PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE:  Critias; Hermocrates; Timaeus; Socrates。











TIMAEUS:  How thankful I am; Socrates; that I have arrived at last; and;



like a weary traveller after a long journey; may be at rest!  And I pray



the being who always was of old; and has now been by me revealed; to grant



that my words may endure in so far as they have been spoken truly and



acceptably to him; but if unintentionally I have said anything wrong; I



pray that he will impose upon me a just retribution; and the just



retribution of him who errs is that he should be set right。  Wishing; then;



to speak truly in future concerning the generation of the gods; I pray him



to give me knowledge; which of all medicines is the most perfect and best。 



And now having offered my prayer I deliver up the argument to Critias; who



is to speak next according to our agreement。  (Tim。)







CRITIAS:  And I; Timaeus; accept the trust; and as you at first said that



you were going to speak of high matters; and begged that some forbearance



might be shown to you; I too ask the same or greater forbearance for what I



am about to say。  And although I very well know that my request may appear



to be somewhat ambitious and discourteous; I must make it nevertheless。 



For will any man of sense deny that you have spoken well?  I can only



attempt to show that I ought to have more indulgence than you; because my



theme is more difficult; and I shall argue that to seem to speak well of



the gods to men is far easier than to speak well of men to men:  for the



inexperience and utter ignorance of his hearers about any subject is a



great assistance to him who has to speak of it; and we know how ignorant we



are concerning the gods。  But I should like to make my meaning clearer; if



you will follow me。  All that is said by any of us can only be imitation



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